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hello welcome welcome to a live episode

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of houston we have a podcast we are

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getting in front of the cameras today

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because if you haven't heard nasa is

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accepting applications to become an

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astronaut all throughout the month of

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march so we have got a lot of questions

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and we have great guests here that are

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going to be answering them for you live

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make sure you follow along with us on

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facebook and twitter and wherever else

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we got we will be getting to your

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questions here in a second but i'd like

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to first introduce our very special

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guest starting with anne rumer and

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welcome thank you glad to be here you

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are the manager of the astronaut

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selection office you know the ins and

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outs of the application process and

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you're there from the inside in fact you

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came on the podcast you actually helped

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us kick it off with episode two to talk

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about when we brought on the astronaut

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2017 class i remember that very well

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well welcome back thank you i'm curious

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to hear the insides of this thanks we

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also have kayla barron hey caitlin hi

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karen caleb uh kayla you're among the

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turtles the astronaut class of 2017. you

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went through this application process

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and competed against 18 000 other people

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and you're here and as part of the

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turtles you have a bachelor's in systems

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engineering with a from the u.s naval

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academy and a masters in nuclear

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engineering from cambridge you're a

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marine warfare officer and you just

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graduated two months ago congratulations

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thank you

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how's life been after graduation it's

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been awesome we've been really busy

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doing lots of different jobs now that

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we've graduated still in training as

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well but it's been a lot of fun to

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contribute to the office in a different

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way wonderful okay well i have a lot of

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questions but we also have are going to

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be taking questions live from you from

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the viewer and we have jennifer

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hernandez standing by hey jennifer hey

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there gary hey kayla hey anne jennifer

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works with us in our public affairs

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office she's also a fellow penn stater

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we are penn state thank you you're

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welcome we're going to be taking

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questions live ohio is rolling her eyes

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well the fellow penn stater is going to

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be taking questions i don't know about

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that yeah we'll see

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um uh from from the web uh jennifer do

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we have any questions to start us off we

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sure do we have one from twitter from

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celery what do you have to do to stand

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out from all the other applicants well

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i think that questions to me

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yeah no i'm just teasing

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we are looking for a lot of information

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on the resume that folks fill out

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people to be very detailed as they

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describe their work experience and other

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experiences we also give applicants an

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opportunity to describe hobbies and

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project at work that right an applicant

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give us as much information as possible

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um okay that's a starting point that's

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the starting point for standing out

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let's get into the details of what you

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need just in the first place right so

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what's the let's start from the very

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minimum requirements what are you

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looking for as a minimum requirement

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should become a nasa hashtag the minimum

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degree and that's actually something

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process that that advanced degrees are

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degree or beyond or test pilot school

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u.s citizenship very important okay so

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2017 class had a lot of masters anyway

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that they can count towards them right

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if they're in a phd program and have a

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towards a master's degree etc so

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stem now you know we always talk about

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go to space why can't i go i've heard

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that from a lot of people lately uh

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right the the core component of what

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the related experience of what you have

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application here in a second but we're

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the support of your peers made all of

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the difference in the world and we also

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do specific training geared towards

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getting to know each other and become

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good teammates we do things like we went

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on a backpacking course with knolls in

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the canyonlands and utah

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that was really fun we also incorporate

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that kind of training whenever we're

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doing

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other kinds of training as well so we

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get that kind of training in the neutral

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buoyancy lab when you're working with a

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teammate

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practicing spacewalk skills or things

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like our geology training where we go

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out in the field and try to learn about

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the geology of our planet so that we can

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apply that in future exploration but a

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lot of that is about working as a team

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doing that in a group and taking

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advantage of everybody's skill sets to

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accomplish a mission i really want to go

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into what it's like just these first

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couple years but first i want to take a

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look at the application and see what

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people can actually do so in order to uh

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go to apply to be an astronaut thank you

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jennifer for taking us here we're going

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to take a look at usa jobs uh if you're

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looking to apply to become an astronaut

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i would assume you would just search the

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title astronaut there it is astronaut

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candidate okay because you're you're a

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candidate for the first couple of years

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okay so you would go there you would

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click on linda b johnson space center

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that's where we are today

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and uh here you go this is the

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application process and and actually

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i've gone through this a couple times

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it's it's pretty dense there's a lot to

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it a lot of different responsibilities

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my favorite though is that one right

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there extensive travel required i'm sure

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you're going to have to go many

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different places all over the world

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outside of the world that's going to be

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an expectation of being a nasa astronaut

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let's see specialized okay here's a good

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section right here the uh degree fields

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when related to sciences because okay

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here's that's a good point because we're

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talking about stem right we've said that

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science technology engineering math

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degrees in technology are actually not

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considered qualifying that's interesting

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are there are but it looks like even

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some sciences though so what looking at

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what's not what you uh what's not

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considered qualifying what give me some

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examples of uh different engineering

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math sciences

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that you're looking for

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so right i think engineering we probably

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see the majority of degrees coming from

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aerospace engineering mechanical

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engineering electrical engineering

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kayla's sitting here next to me with

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systems engineering and also nuclear

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engineering so i think i think the the

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majority of engineering disciplines

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we've probably had applications or

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candidates come from in the in the

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science re

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arena right we have biological science

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majors we have the physical science

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majors we have

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we see a lot of applications from

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medical doctors

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and that's an important skill set for

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the astronaut office to have and

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continue to have available to us as we

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look at putting together long-duration

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crews etc so

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yeah most of the degrees that aren't

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qualifying are listed there

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you know as as curriculums change and

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majors evolve if there's ever any doubt

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we actually do research the degree

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program

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and look at the amount of math and

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science classes that are required so if

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if there is a questionable degree we

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actually do the research and and make

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sure that it would be qualifying okay

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now kayla what made you want to pursue

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systems engineering and then nuclear

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engineering when you were in school what

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were you thinking about um

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ann probably knows this from perusing

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applications but systems engineering

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means a lot of different things a lot of

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different universities at the naval

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academy it's actually control systems

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and robotics engineering so i was

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attracted to that major initially

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because it was super interdisciplinary i

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liked electrical engineering i liked

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coding

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and i liked doing things with an

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application focus and so that was a good

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fit for me because i got to dabble in a

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lot of different types of engineering

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and also work on bringing those

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disciplines together to accomplish

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something really tangible and i found

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that really attractive

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and then during my time at the naval

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academy i got really interested in

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climate change and new energy

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technologies that would help us deal

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with that longer term and i came to feel

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that nuclear was a huge part of that uh

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future you know developing new nuclear

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generation technologies that had better

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waste management profiles that were

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safer and all these other things and so

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that's why i wanted to do that in grad

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school so i went and did a research

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degree

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helping develop the fuel cycle for a

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reactor that hopefully will build some

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day soon see that's interesting because

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what you're talking about you were

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passionate when you were pursuing

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systems you were just passionate about

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systems engineering and we were pursuing

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nuclear it was you were just passionate

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about it it seems like astronaut wasn't

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even on your mind at the time

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yeah you know that's a good question a

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lot of my colleagues wanted to be

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astronauts from when they were a little

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kid and they definitely were making

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choices to pursue things they were

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passionate about too but always with the

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mind of keeping those doors open for

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themselves by studying the right things

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maybe joining the military there's a lot

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of different tracks to get to these

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seats

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but for me i

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was always looked looking towards

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challenging myself as much as i could in

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each subsequent opportunity so

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astronaut wasn't really a thing in the

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back of my mind it was something i

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always thought was really cool but

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didn't really picture myself doing um

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and so i actually didn't become inspired

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to apply until after i had served on the

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submarine um when i left my submarine i

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went back to the naval academy to work

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there and i got to meet a lot of really

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interesting people including a couple of

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astronauts

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and chatting with them talking about the

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time when they were building the space

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station i found really fascinating

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because it reminded me a lot of the

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equipment that we use on submarines

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you're also trying to keep people alive

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in an environment where they shouldn't

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exist you know whether you're hundreds

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of feet below the surface of the ocean

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or you know hundreds of miles above the

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surface of the earth

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and so

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that really inspired me because i

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started thinking of the space station as

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a submarine in space

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and the astronauts who i talked to

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really encouraged me to keep thinking

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about that and once it's stuck in my

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mind it becomes became something that i

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could actually picture myself doing

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because i felt the role was so so

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similar um and so for me it was just

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always about pursuing things i was

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passionate about and that would be

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challenging because if i was doing

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something i liked even if it was hard i

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was going to enjoy it and get the most

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out of it and find it the most

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fulfilling so i think

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something you see

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around our office and especially in our

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class is everybody who was hired was

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doing something that they really loved

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you know that they they obviously

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got their dream job by getting the call

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to come and be an astronaut and they

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would never trade that for anything but

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we all in some ways really miss what we

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were doing before because we were

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pursuing things we're passionate about

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um and so i think that's a common thread

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you see across the astronaut office and

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i think that's right kayla hits upon a

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point i think that's one of the best

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pieces of advice we can give folks and

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even especially young folks who may

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still be aspiring to pursue a stem

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degree etc is pursue something that

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you're passionate about and that you

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enjoy

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we receive thousands of applications to

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be an astronaut

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right and obviously only a limited

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number

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are chosen but

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it really resonates when when folks get

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invited in and get come into interview

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that they're happy in their jobs and

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they've liked what they've done and

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right they've put their heart and soul

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into it yeah that seems to be a pretty

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consistent theme right so yeah so not

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only do they have the qualifications to

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become a nasa astronaut but they were

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good and they would be happy in this job

509
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that they had in the first place because

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you're picking the people that are best

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in their field right so you know systems

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engineering nuclear engineering you were

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one of the best in that field with the

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confined spaces and living in those

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areas so yeah you pulled that but even

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if you were still on the submarine you

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would still be happy yeah absolutely and

518
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i think we get questions about that a

519
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lot and yeah people say should i major

520
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in aerospace engineering or mechanical

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engineering and you're like which one do

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you like a lot of times um college

523
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students ask me should i take russian

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i'm like do you want to learn russian or

525
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you know they're just trying to see like

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do i need to be checking these boxes and

527
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it's like like ann was saying you do

528
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have to choose certain fields there but

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there's a broad range of things you can

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do and you just look at our class as an

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example we have everything from you know

532
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emergency medicine physicians to mars

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geologists to microbiologists that study

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cave slime and a bunch of different

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military roles too so there's a lot of

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different paths to get to be

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you know a competitive applicant for the

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astronaut office now of course we're

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talking about degrees i think we have a

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really good question about just physical

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fitness from the web jennifer do we have

542
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a question about physical fitness yeah

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we sure do we have one from twitter from

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marie are there particular exercises or

545
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fitness regimes a person ought to do if

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they wish to apply to be an astronaut in

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the future okay so i guess just yeah

548
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about about fitness kayla do you have do

549
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you have any recommendations on just

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exercises or fitness

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you know it's really interesting and in

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our office there are people who are

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passionate about a whole range of

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different fitness approaches whether

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they like to run or do triathlons or

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participate more in team sports

557
00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:06,640
a lot of everybody has sort of their own

558
00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:08,080
thing they're passionate about doing and

559
00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:11,200
have fun doing and it's important to be

560
00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:13,840
fit of course and healthy because flying

561
00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:16,240
in space does a lot of puts a lot of

562
00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:18,160
stress on your body

563
00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:20,960
but there's no like particular aspect i

564
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:23,679
think that you have to do i think

565
00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:25,360
investing in your own fitness and health

566
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:27,679
is super important but you can do that a

567
00:18:32,150 --> 00:18:29,760
lot of different ways okay yeah so it's

568
00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:32,160
just once once again here's this that

569
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:33,919
same theme finding something you're

570
00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:35,520
passionate about whether it's cycling

571
00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:36,880
whether it's swimming whether it's

572
00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:38,880
weightlifting finding that thing and

573
00:18:44,230 --> 00:18:42,160
just having that be a habit for you to

574
00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:44,240
maintain that fitness consistently

575
00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:46,080
throughout your time as an astronaut

576
00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:47,679
yeah and we actually have trainers here

577
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:50,080
at nasa who specialize in advising us

578
00:18:53,029 --> 00:18:51,440
both when we're in space but also

579
00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:53,039
preparing to go to space and then

580
00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:54,880
recovering when we get home and that's

581
00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:56,160
what they encourage they say what do you

582
00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:57,200
like to do what are you going to do

583
00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,200
consistently because that's way better

584
00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:01,520
than us prescribing you know a very

585
00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:03,840
specific regimen that you're not going

586
00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:05,679
to stick to yeah now obviously when you

587
00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:07,600
are on the space station for example

588
00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:08,480
there's

589
00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:10,480
only specific equipment

590
00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:13,039
without choice option

591
00:19:17,029 --> 00:19:15,679
but that being said they believe that

592
00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:17,039
you can prepare in a lot of different

593
00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:20,720
ways okay so let's uh let's talk about

594
00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:22,640
just coming in right

595
00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:24,160
we talked about the application process

596
00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:25,200
we've talked about the minimum

597
00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:27,280
applications kayla let's talk about that

598
00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:28,960
first time where you got the call that

599
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:31,039
says hey we're ready for you to come in

600
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:32,640
we're ready for you to come in and keep

601
00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:34,000
interviewing what was that like those

602
00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:35,919
first those first rounds of interviews

603
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,960
um

604
00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:39,440
you know every time best experience of

605
00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:41,919
your life right every time i got a call

606
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:44,000
whether it was from ann letting me know

607
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:46,000
i was invited for an interview or the

608
00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:47,200
final call letting me know i was

609
00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:49,919
selected i kind of always was like are

610
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:51,360
you are you sure you had the right

611
00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:53,919
number you know it's like very double

612
00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:56,480
checked yeah the whole the whole process

613
00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:59,360
is uh very exciting but also

614
00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:01,360
very intimidating you know there are a

615
00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:03,679
lot of impressive people that apply and

616
00:20:08,549 --> 00:20:05,840
the selection panel is made up of really

617
00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:08,559
impressive people here at nasa both in

618
00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:11,039
and out of the astronaut office

619
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:12,480
and for me especially because it was

620
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:15,520
such a new thing and i didn't really

621
00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:17,760
you know chart my course specifically

622
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:19,360
after that i was always just amazed that

623
00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:20,400
they were still

624
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:22,400
interested in in meeting and talking to

625
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:24,480
me more um

626
00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:26,480
so i feel really grateful to be there be

627
00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:28,080
here and every time they called me i was

628
00:20:32,630 --> 00:20:30,000
really grateful that they were giving me

629
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:32,640
you know a shot shot at it

630
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:35,679
so beyond your expertise in your field

631
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:37,919
and it seems like humility is one of

632
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:40,080
those qualities that's actually a nice

633
00:20:45,029 --> 00:20:42,880
thing to have in an astronaut uh yeah

634
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:45,039
right it is certainly i think there are

635
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:47,120
a lot of

636
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,799
qualities that go in right we're looking

637
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,880
for good humans is kind of the phrase

638
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,799
i've been using right good at

639
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:54,559
communicating good at interpersonal

640
00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:57,679
skills and and interacting with others

641
00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:00,080
uh leadership but also knowing how to

642
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:01,840
follow right a lot of what an astronaut

643
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,400
does on orbit is follow directions down

644
00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:06,960
to you know dotting the t's or dotting

645
00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:09,760
the eyes and crossing the t's um

646
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,600
and so we're looking for a lot of those

647
00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:13,679
intangible

648
00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:16,640
qualities about people i think uh having

649
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:18,640
sat on the board a couple of times right

650
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:20,400
and a lot of the astronauts are are

651
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:22,320
sitting around that table

652
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,480
you know looking at you thinking hmm

653
00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:27,120
would i want to fly in space with kayla

654
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:29,440
or or is do am i getting vibes that

655
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:31,600
right that would she'd drive me crazy so

656
00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:33,440
i mean i think i think that's really

657
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,200
can't be understated the importance of

658
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:36,799
that when it comes down to the interview

659
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:39,520
phase a huge question is would i want to

660
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:41,760
fly with this person why is this person

661
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:44,080
capable of what i want

662
00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:46,240
i mean we don't we don't get really any

663
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:48,799
applications from past right people

664
00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:51,200
coming in with astronaut like experience

665
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:52,880
as kayla mentioned we do a lot of the

666
00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:55,760
training for what what they need to be

667
00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:58,000
an astronaut so a lot of the intangible

668
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:59,440
skills

669
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:01,200
and competencies are

670
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:03,440
are equally important

671
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:05,039
kayla tell me about the call when you

672
00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:06,080
find out you're going through this

673
00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:07,760
interview process you're you're saying i

674
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:09,280
do i even deserve to be here but but you

675
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:10,960
got selected yeah

676
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,760
um so for me i was serving at the naval

677
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:15,280
academy for a couple years kind of

678
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:16,799
between tours on submarines i was

679
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:19,039
expecting to go back to a submarine to

680
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:21,280
be an engineer and you know deploy a

681
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:22,720
bunch more times and that's kind of what

682
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:25,120
i thought i would end up doing

683
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:26,400
but at the time i was working at the

684
00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:28,159
naval academy for the superintendent the

685
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:31,120
admiral that runs that institution and

686
00:22:34,870 --> 00:22:32,720
it was during graduation week it was the

687
00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:34,880
day before graduation for the senior

688
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:36,720
class so it was very busy and we were at

689
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:39,200
a formal military parade where all of

690
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:40,720
the midshipmen you have thousands of

691
00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:42,960
midshipmen march onto the field in their

692
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,120
fancy uniforms it's a very like

693
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:47,039
ceremonial event and i had to

694
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:49,280
participate in it because i was the

695
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:51,200
admiral's assistant so i would go out

696
00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:53,360
there and help you know coordinate the

697
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,520
official party and all that and i was so

698
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:57,120
nervous that i would get the call during

699
00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:58,720
that one time in the day where i really

700
00:23:01,430 --> 00:23:00,159
couldn't have my phone because i'm

701
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,440
standing at attention in front of

702
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:03,679
hundreds of people watching this uh

703
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:05,919
parade and sure enough i got back to my

704
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:07,520
phone right after the parade and four

705
00:23:11,669 --> 00:23:09,919
minutes before that i had a missed call

706
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:11,679
and my boss admiral carter was like you

707
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,880
got to call him back you got to call

708
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:14,320
back and i was like sir you can't call

709
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:16,080
this number back it's like a generic you

710
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:17,840
know jsc number is the way it shows up

711
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:18,960
on your phone i was like i think i just

712
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:22,240
gotta wait and so about 45 minutes later

713
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,600
they must have cycled back through the

714
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:25,600
rotation and called me again

715
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,640
because we knew they were going to call

716
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:28,480
us on that day to let us know one way or

717
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:31,600
another if we got selected um and we had

718
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:34,240
heard the you know the applicant rumor

719
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:37,600
mill that if either uh brian kelly bk or

720
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:39,280
chris cassie called you that probably

721
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:41,360
meant you were getting selected and it

722
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:43,200
so i would i answered that i get to make

723
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:44,880
the bad phone call you made the bad

724
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,200
phone calls yeah so that was the rumor

725
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:49,279
so i answered the phone and it was bk

726
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:51,840
and chris but of course i got to listen

727
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,679
in yeah of course you're like

728
00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:55,360
uh you know you don't want to get too

729
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:56,799
excited until you actually hear the

730
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:57,919
words

731
00:24:01,190 --> 00:24:00,000
and i just remember bk asking kayla

732
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:01,200
we're calling to see if you still want

733
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,559
to come down to houston to be a part of

734
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:04,960
the next class and it is like just the

735
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:06,960
easiest question in the whole world

736
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:09,360
so you're just like absolutely yeah um

737
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:10,880
but it's a pretty short call you know

738
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:12,240
they're just like hey do you still want

739
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:13,600
to do this and you're like of course i

740
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:15,039
don't know i can't imagine anyone saying

741
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,159
no at that point right um but yeah we i

742
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:20,559
was just so pumped high-fived admiral

743
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:21,520
carter

744
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,440
called my husband and let him know and

745
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:25,279
we were just really excited wow and you

746
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:27,520
got to be a part of that yeah i get to i

747
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,360
get to at least listen in on the good on

748
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:31,279
the good phone calls too yeah you

749
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:34,000
deserve that thanks thanks yeah i got i

750
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:35,760
got to imagine though just you know you

751
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:37,520
have to narrow it down to 12 people for

752
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:40,080
this 2017 class 12 people

753
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:42,080
out of 18 000 applicants even just

754
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:44,000
narrowing it down there where did it go

755
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:45,039
from

756
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,320
12 that had to be hard just by itself

757
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:52,640
yeah well each each step in the process

758
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,039
it gets a little more difficult to to

759
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:57,600
continue narrowing it down um certainly

760
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:59,520
it's a multiple there are multiple steps

761
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:01,520
in the process that help us narrow this

762
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:02,480
down

763
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,200
typically write multiple sets of of

764
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:07,039
reviewing applications

765
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:08,480
we are

766
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,400
we do two rounds of interviews actually

767
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:12,799
so we typically bring around 120 folks

768
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:15,279
in for the first round of interviews and

769
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:17,679
then from there we we kind of

770
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,080
keep squeezing the numbers we have about

771
00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:22,080
generally between 40 and 50 that come

772
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:24,080
back for the second round and then that

773
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:25,919
gradually gets us into whatever number

774
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,919
we're going to select oh that's got to

775
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:29,440
be tough all right let's see what we

776
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:31,360
have on online jennifer do we have any

777
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:33,760
questions from some of our viewers we

778
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:36,640
sure do we have one from m31 on twitter

779
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:39,120
can physicians be astronauts

780
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:42,559
physicians okay doctors yes yes is there

781
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:45,279
any type of physician that is uh you

782
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:47,840
know pediatrician or or internal

783
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:50,159
medicine or emergency medicine yeah

784
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:53,440
we've we've seen applications um from a

785
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:55,279
wide range of physicians so i can't

786
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:57,520
think of you know the the medical degree

787
00:26:00,710 --> 00:26:00,000
in and of itself whether an md or a do

788
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:00,720
is

789
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:05,279
meets those requirements of a master's

790
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:06,720
degree it meets those requirements of

791
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:08,960
science technology and engineering math

792
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:10,240
and of course you have to be a us

793
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:12,799
citizen yep okay so

794
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:16,400
kayla you got selected you came to nasa

795
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:17,760
i'm sure that was a whole process of

796
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:19,840
moving and your first day and everything

797
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:21,279
tell me about some of the training you

798
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:22,799
went through we talked about t38

799
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:24,880
training which is in the plane but what

800
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:25,919
are some of the other things you're

801
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:28,320
doing in your first few years first few

802
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:31,039
years as an astronaut candidate yeah so

803
00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:33,679
basically six big areas we're training

804
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:36,799
in you mentioned t-38 we also do sort of

805
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:39,200
basic spacewalk training that's mostly

806
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:40,720
done in the neutral buoyancy lab where

807
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,039
you train underwater in a spacesuit

808
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,600
we also do robotics operations training

809
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,279
learn how to operate the robotic arm

810
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:49,679
that's on the space station we learn all

811
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:51,919
about space station systems and how to

812
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:53,919
operate you know the cooling systems the

813
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:55,360
electrical systems and how to respond

814
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:57,600
when something breaks uh so to prepare

815
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:00,240
for a mission on the space station um we

816
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,480
all learned to speak russian uh which is

817
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,320
a challenge for many of us i hear that's

818
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,559
one of the harder ones yeah it's it's

819
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:08,080
tough i mean some people are natural

820
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:10,559
language learners and some like me are

821
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:11,600
not

822
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:13,919
but we are lucky that we have very

823
00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:16,240
talented and patient instructors to help

824
00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:18,399
us through that um and then the sixth

825
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:19,919
area that we sometimes don't mention but

826
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,279
i really think we should is

827
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:23,760
expeditionary skills training which or

828
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,679
teamwork training really and we touched

829
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,840
on that a bit earlier um but i think

830
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:29,840
that's just a huge such a huge component

831
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:31,919
of what we do here at nasa you know you

832
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,360
can

833
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:35,440
be technically qualified in a lot of

834
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,840
ways but if you're not able to work

835
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,080
effectively with people from different

836
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:42,640
backgrounds if you're not able to you

837
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,480
know address and move on from conflict

838
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:46,320
if you're not able to figure out how to

839
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:47,520
bring out the best in yourself and

840
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:49,600
others to really be a high functioning

841
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:50,480
team

842
00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:52,799
then we're really doing a disservice to

843
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:53,840
um

844
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,320
you know the the whole country and world

845
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:58,159
you know being one of these getting this

846
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:00,640
huge opportunity to work off the planet

847
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:02,960
um i think we owe it to everyone to be

848
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:04,799
our best selves and work as a team to

849
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:06,640
accomplish the mission now i'm sure that

850
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:08,320
takes quite a long time let's see if we

851
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,840
have any questions about training online

852
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:11,360
jennifer do we have any questions yeah

853
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:13,440
speaking of training we have anna from

854
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:15,120
twitter how long does the training

855
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,080
process take okay yeah how long um our

856
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,399
initial training is about two years okay

857
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,880
um and that's where we accomplish our

858
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:24,720
exams and all of the areas i just talked

859
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:27,039
about and qualify to become astronauts

860
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,480
so when you graduate you go from being

861
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:30,480
an astronaut candidate to an astronaut

862
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:31,840
and being eligible for a mission

863
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:34,240
assignment but really you keep training

864
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,039
your entire time because there's a long

865
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:39,120
time between your you know getting hired

866
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:40,559
in your first mission but also between

867
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,080
your missions and so we are constantly

868
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:46,399
continuing to train in all of the areas

869
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,919
i talked about so that when you are

870
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,360
assigned to a specific mission you're

871
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:51,039
ready to go and do more advanced

872
00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:53,120
training with your actual crewmates to

873
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:55,360
get ready to fly so what are some of the

874
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,679
things that might be in the realm of

875
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:59,120
advanced training like what are you

876
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:01,440
going to be zeroing in on yeah so we're

877
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,679
kind of doing basic generic skills

878
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:05,520
during our astronaut candidate training

879
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,600
kind of just the foundation

880
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:09,600
upon which we can build later but when

881
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,440
we get assigned to a specific mission

882
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,120
instead of just learning you know

883
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:15,120
generically about what's in the u.s

884
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:17,360
laboratory module on the space station

885
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:19,360
we'll be actually practicing setting up

886
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,200
experiments we'll do

887
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,760
we'll be practicing more with how to do

888
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,600
photography and

889
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:27,840
how to operate

890
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:29,440
you know all the equipment that we might

891
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:31,120
actually be using and then our spacewalk

892
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:32,640
training becomes really specialized too

893
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:34,480
if there's a spacewalk planned for that

894
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,159
mission we'll start training those very

895
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:38,640
specific procedures basically as a dress

896
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,640
rehearsal for doing it in real life okay

897
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:42,880
so you're you're past the phase where

898
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,039
you during astronaut candidate training

899
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,440
you're just developing the basic skills

900
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:49,679
now it's just when you get to assign to

901
00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:51,679
a mission you can learn it's kind of

902
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,679
exactly what you'll be doing exactly so

903
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:55,360
whether it's changing a battery or

904
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:57,760
whether it's installing a new

905
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:00,000
new science hardware you'll specialize

906
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:03,039
in that okay yeah very cool now you

907
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:05,360
graduated recently too

908
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:07,360
that was a pretty cool event to see i'll

909
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:09,919
say just because uh what what's unique

910
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:12,320
for at least for me in a selfish way i

911
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,480
got to interview you guys when you came

912
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:17,120
on and then two years later there you

913
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,600
are on the stage you know graduating how

914
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:22,080
was that just just the event just did it

915
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:23,600
was it significant to you in the sense

916
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,640
that wow i actually i actually did this

917
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:28,480
yeah you know i like i kind of mentioned

918
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:30,399
before i think the coolest part for us

919
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:31,440
was

920
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:32,240
the

921
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,399
class experience of graduating of kind

922
00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:36,960
of getting to that point that the

923
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:39,039
senior astronauts in the office

924
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:41,600
were saying they trusted us to continue

925
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:44,000
on and that that meant a lot to us you

926
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:45,120
know having

927
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,039
pat forster the chief of the office give

928
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:49,600
us our silver astronaut pin

929
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:52,000
and jeremy hanson our class supervisor

930
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,720
who was kind of our guide through the

931
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,320
day-to-day life of being an astronaut

932
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:58,559
candidate you know meant a lot to get to

933
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:00,320
that stage together

934
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:03,840
and to be on the cusp of the next phase

935
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:07,200
of our careers as young astronauts

936
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:09,279
so it was a big deal in that sense and

937
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:11,360
it was also really cool opportunity

938
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:13,200
really to acknowledge and thank the

939
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:15,600
people who selected us the people who

940
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:18,320
supported us in training our instructors

941
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:21,600
our mentors and of course our families

942
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:24,159
without their support we wouldn't have

943
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:26,080
the opportunity to come here and do this

944
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:27,440
amazing thing

945
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:30,480
so i think for us it was a team success

946
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,159
and also a chance to acknowledge the

947
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:34,399
people who built us up to get there in

948
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,159
the first place wonderful it must have

949
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:38,080
been cool for you too and to see because

950
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:39,760
you selected them and there they were on

951
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,320
the stage i was i was very proud yeah

952
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:44,399
proud moment and i was grateful to be in

953
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:46,960
the audience very cool now

954
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:48,000
you know you're i'm sure you're

955
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,919
reflecting at this time of graduation on

956
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:51,679
some of the some of the training and

957
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,960
just what you had to go through you

958
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:54,960
talked about this diverse set of

959
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:56,559
experiences and you got to do it with

960
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:57,919
some of your crewmates you even told

961
00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:00,559
stories on the stage of just your time

962
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:02,399
together you have a memorable moment

963
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,559
from from that two from those two years

964
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:07,279
maybe during one of the geology trips or

965
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,039
maybe a particular time during one of

966
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,440
the space walks or the the mbl the

967
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,360
neutral point yeah you know there's

968
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:15,600
there's almost too many to count like

969
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:18,159
it's such a wonderful group to be a part

970
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:19,760
of like i feel so lucky that i get to

971
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:21,760
come to work every day and work with my

972
00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:23,360
colleagues in my class in the astronaut

973
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:24,799
office and then in the larger nasa

974
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:27,200
community like everyone is here because

975
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,640
they're really passionate about it

976
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,640
people choose to work here at johnson

977
00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:32,799
space center people choose to dedicate

978
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:36,159
their lives to human space exploration

979
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:37,200
and

980
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,679
exciting team to be a part of i think

981
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:43,440
for most of us our favorite memories

982
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:45,120
from training are things that we did in

983
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,760
the field a lot of us think of our time

984
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,440
on that backpacking trip with knowles

985
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:51,360
that we did as kind of a keystone

986
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:53,919
experience for us

987
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:55,279
because we already knew each other

988
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:58,240
really well but kind of working in that

989
00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:01,120
more extreme context of having to figure

990
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:02,880
out where we're going to get water how

991
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:05,360
to cook our food together and just you

992
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:07,120
know traversing in the backcountry

993
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:08,799
making decisions and supporting each

994
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:10,240
other kind of seeing everybody at their

995
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:12,640
best and their worst

996
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:14,960
hopefully johnny would think it's okay

997
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,720
for me to tell this story but one of my

998
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:18,399
favorite moments from

999
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:20,080
that trip

1000
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:22,000
we so there's not much water in that

1001
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,640
part of utah a lot of times you're kind

1002
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:26,159
of scooping it out of these little

1003
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,080
potholes in the rock just that like an

1004
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:30,240
inch thick of water trying to fill your

1005
00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:33,039
you know various vessels for the day

1006
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,399
so it's kind of hard to get water

1007
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:36,960
sometimes but one night it started just

1008
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:39,519
this torrential downpour of rain

1009
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,000
and it was cold and we're all huddled

1010
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:43,679
sort of under this overhang trying to

1011
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:44,960
stay dry

1012
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:46,640
and johnny's tromping around in the

1013
00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:49,440
puddles he's wearing this big camouflage

1014
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:51,919
poncho and i just remember looking up at

1015
00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:53,600
him and my my headlamp was shining on

1016
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:54,880
him it was dark

1017
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,159
and he was using his poncho as a funnel

1018
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,720
to shoot rain water into all the water

1019
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:02,880
bottles and pots and pans and he just

1020
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,720
looked up at me with this really excited

1021
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,960
look on his face and said kayla look at

1022
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:09,119
all this free water

1023
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,359
and it made me laugh so hard because

1024
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:13,040
it's just like it's in those moments

1025
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:16,079
where people are cold and tired

1026
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,240
and you know maybe a little bit bummed

1027
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:20,639
out and seeing one of your peers your

1028
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,200
teammates like literally the glass is

1029
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:24,879
half full for him you know he's just

1030
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:26,560
like this

1031
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:27,839
look at all this free water and you're

1032
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:29,280
like you can think like oh it's cold

1033
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:30,879
terrible rain but for him he was

1034
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:32,079
choosing to see it from a different

1035
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:34,159
perspective and that's the kind of

1036
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,919
teammate you really want in those hard

1037
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:37,520
moments because all of a sudden

1038
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,679
everyone's laughing everyone's morale is

1039
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,760
boosted and that's just johnny being

1040
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:43,440
johnny you know johnny being himself and

1041
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:45,280
being willing to share himself with us

1042
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:47,359
really brought the team out of you know

1043
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,720
a tough moment

1044
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:50,240
and so it's things like that that you

1045
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:52,240
just always think about yeah you know

1046
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,919
you can you can say all you need these

1047
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:55,200
team skills all you want but it's

1048
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,200
stories that like that that really lock

1049
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,119
it in just like when when things are

1050
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:01,520
really down being able to rely on each

1051
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:04,480
other um and and knowing each other's

1052
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:07,040
strengths weaknesses ups downs um

1053
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:08,320
knowing what everyone's going through

1054
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:09,200
that's

1055
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:10,880
critical to the success of a mission

1056
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:12,720
because it's just you sorry that's a

1057
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,960
wonderful story yeah so this is this is

1058
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,079
what you're talking about when you talk

1059
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:18,079
about when you talk about your your

1060
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,839
interpersonal skills i'm sure that's a

1061
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,119
big part of the

1062
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,280
the interview process just by itself is

1063
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:25,440
just how not only who they are and

1064
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:26,880
understanding their background but how

1065
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,560
they're interacting with each other yeah

1066
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:30,800
we get asked a lot right what advice can

1067
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:32,720
you give somebody who's

1068
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:34,720
got been invited to do an interview and

1069
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:37,040
right again the advice comes to just be

1070
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:39,680
yourself right and not you're not trying

1071
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:40,400
to

1072
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:42,000
kind of fake your way through the

1073
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:44,000
interview process being someone you're

1074
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,680
not we're really looking for people who

1075
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,839
are genuine and real so if you know

1076
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:49,599
having interviewed johnny that story

1077
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:50,960
doesn't really surprise me that's

1078
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:52,800
exactly what i would have expected from

1079
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:54,640
him yeah i remember

1080
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:56,480
coming down for my first interview and

1081
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,320
we come to we came down in groups of 10

1082
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:00,560
for our class and meeting all the other

1083
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,200
candidates i was just so blown away by

1084
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,200
how talented and wonderful all of them

1085
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:07,920
were and it's it's hard not to feel a

1086
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:09,680
little bit of imposter syndrome you know

1087
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,200
you're like what am i doing here like

1088
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:13,200
what did they really see in me and kind

1089
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:14,400
of wondering you know when i go into

1090
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:15,520
that interview

1091
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:16,880
interview room it's at the end of this

1092
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:18,800
long table with all these astronauts and

1093
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:21,200
senior national nasa officials like what

1094
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:22,400
are they looking for what do they want

1095
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,960
from me and i remember going into my

1096
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:26,640
interview for some reason last thing i

1097
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,160
thought before i walked in the door was

1098
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,880
i i said don't make any jokes because

1099
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:32,320
i'm so worried i was going to say

1100
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:34,240
something sarcastic or

1101
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:35,920
whatever you know show my sense of humor

1102
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:36,880
and it wouldn't be received the right

1103
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,920
way because they didn't know me very

1104
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:39,440
well and i sat down

1105
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:41,119
and we were talking and it didn't take

1106
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:42,480
long before

1107
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:45,119
uh tanto reid weisman made some sort of

1108
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:47,280
joke at me and just instinctually you

1109
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,720
know that's just how you interact he's a

1110
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:50,160
naval officer too that's just how you

1111
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:51,920
interact you kind of talk trash to each

1112
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,910
and there was this moment of silence and

1113
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:57,599
i was like oh no that was the one thing

1114
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:59,119
you weren't supposed to do

1115
00:37:01,670 --> 00:37:00,000
but then

1116
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:01,680
lindgren started laughing everyone

1117
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:03,440
started laughing and it just relaxed me

1118
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:05,520
and i just went you know in that moment

1119
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:06,640
really quick i was just like you know

1120
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:08,480
i'm just going to be myself and if

1121
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:10,079
that's what they're looking for

1122
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:12,000
awesome i'll feel authentic in doing it

1123
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:13,839
and if not they probably know that too

1124
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:16,320
so that's okay yeah um and so that

1125
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:18,480
moment really helps me just be like be a

1126
00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:22,079
human be myself yeah show who you are um

1127
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,079
and that'll carry the day or it won't

1128
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:26,320
and so that sort of healthy fatalism of

1129
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:27,760
just be yourself

1130
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,920
be honest about who you are i think goes

1131
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,440
a long way yeah because when you're

1132
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:33,520
thinking about it can these people work

1133
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:34,720
together there's that level of

1134
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:36,400
authenticity that you're looking for

1135
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:37,839
because you're not looking for this

1136
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:39,920
facade whenever you're you're selecting

1137
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:41,119
an astronaut you know you want to know

1138
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:43,119
the true person because ultimately to

1139
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,960
that story you just told with johnny kim

1140
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:47,280
it's going to be relying on that person

1141
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,800
so you want to know that person and who

1142
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:50,400
they really are not just the facade of

1143
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:51,760
who they are yep

1144
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:53,760
let's see if there's another question um

1145
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:55,040
jennifer do we have another question

1146
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:57,839
from online we sure do from stephanie

1147
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:00,400
jackson on twitter is there an age limit

1148
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:02,480
of applying to be an astronaut that's a

1149
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:05,760
popular one there is not an age limit uh

1150
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:08,240
and that includes right a a limit a

1151
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:10,160
floor and a ceiling there are there are

1152
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,800
no limits folks need to meet the minimum

1153
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:14,079
requirements

1154
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:15,599
um

1155
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:16,640
you know

1156
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:18,800
the requirement comes in as we get down

1157
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,200
to the final group candidates have to be

1158
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:23,359
able to pass nasa's long-duration space

1159
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:26,160
flight physical um and and provided they

1160
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:27,520
can do that

1161
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,280
that's all good that's that's the core

1162
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:31,040
that's the corvette not an age but just

1163
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:33,440
the skill set and the ability correct

1164
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:35,599
yeah i understand um

1165
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:37,839
now kayla you you talked about this

1166
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,079
camaraderie um that makes me think of

1167
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:42,960
just your class name that the turtles

1168
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,320
why are you called the turtles did you

1169
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:46,480
name that together as a group

1170
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:48,960
no there is a long tradition of the

1171
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,280
class just above you

1172
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:53,599
gives you your class nickname so for us

1173
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:56,000
the 2013 class the eight balls were in

1174
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:58,320
charge of giving us our nickname

1175
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:01,280
um and it's kind of i think comes a bit

1176
00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:04,480
from an aviation call sign or nickname

1177
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:06,400
uh tradition where there's always more

1178
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:07,680
than one meaning

1179
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:10,400
um but the inspiration for the name

1180
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:12,079
actually came from the vice president's

1181
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:14,160
speech that he gave at our announcement

1182
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:16,880
he was talking about how you know our

1183
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:18,880
families and friends had supported us in

1184
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:21,040
order to be there on that stage that day

1185
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,079
and he used a metaphor that if you see a

1186
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,920
box turtle on a fence post you know it

1187
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:27,599
didn't get there on its own

1188
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:29,760
and so that was the original genesis of

1189
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:32,320
the question or of the the call sign the

1190
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:34,079
nickname because

1191
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,520
you guys didn't get there on there on

1192
00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:37,599
your own it was the support of everyone

1193
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:39,359
around you that helped you to get you to

1194
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:41,680
that point yeah very cool and a lot of

1195
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:43,359
times the names have always been things

1196
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:45,920
that don't fly correct yes

1197
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:48,560
don't fly turtles don't fly they're slow

1198
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:51,119
get back in their shell et cetera okay

1199
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:52,640
so there's a there's yeah there's always

1200
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:54,079
a double there's always a double meeting

1201
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,040
that's hilarious now um let's zoom in on

1202
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:59,200
on this class that you're looking for

1203
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,560
and because we're talking about this

1204
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:02,160
next class right i love the stories of

1205
00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:04,319
the 2017 class yeah it keeps getting

1206
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:06,319
referred to as the artemis generation

1207
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:07,440
let's just start there what does that

1208
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:10,319
mean what are we looking for so i'm

1209
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,160
optimistic that

1210
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:13,920
most people know that we're trying to go

1211
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:16,720
back to the moon by 2024

1212
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:18,640
and certainly to us that's just the next

1213
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:21,040
stopping point i i hope we're on our way

1214
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:23,280
to mars beyond that i think that's the

1215
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,880
long-term goal um and so artemis are is

1216
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:28,720
kind of the umbrella for the missions

1217
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:30,880
that will take us back to the moon okay

1218
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,400
so so

1219
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:34,400
is there differences

1220
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:36,079
that you know from different classes

1221
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,599
just from thinking about international

1222
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,760
space station crews are we you know are

1223
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,520
we talking about being together

1224
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,960
and i keep going back to this

1225
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:44,400
interpersonal skills and getting along

1226
00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:45,599
with each other because how i imagine

1227
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:46,720
this going is they're going to be

1228
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:49,040
together by themselves for really long

1229
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:50,319
periods of time

1230
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:52,960
eventually yeah so right surprisingly

1231
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:55,359
what we've looked for um whether looking

1232
00:40:59,829 --> 00:40:57,599
back through the shuttle selection era

1233
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:59,839
um through international space station

1234
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:01,920
on to the moon and hopefully on to mars

1235
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:03,280
the skill set that we've looked for

1236
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:04,960
really hasn't changed that much right

1237
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,520
the intangible skills have have remained

1238
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:09,760
pretty consistent right and and we've

1239
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:11,920
hit upon one of them extensively today

1240
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:14,720
which is being a good teammate and and

1241
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,960
understanding really what that means

1242
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:18,880
sometimes it may mean leading the team

1243
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:21,040
sometimes it may mean being a follower

1244
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,400
on the team etc um and so really what

1245
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,640
we've been focusing on with this class

1246
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,800
isn't really much different than what

1247
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:30,560
we've always focused on in astronaut

1248
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,880
selection okay that's good to know i

1249
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,040
want to zoom in on the the technical

1250
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,800
aspect because because i do keep going

1251
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:38,160
back to this theme of team aspect

1252
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,160
because i find it really fascinating but

1253
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:41,760
just having a systems engineering

1254
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,839
background having a nuclear engineering

1255
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:45,680
background i want to understand better

1256
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,280
just the application

1257
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,040
maybe that you found in your training

1258
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:51,040
just you know taking your classes and

1259
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:53,520
going through the brutal courses of what

1260
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,599
it takes to become a systems engineer

1261
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:57,119
bachelors and then a nuclear engineer

1262
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,160
masters

1263
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:00,079
things that you found the skills that

1264
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,560
you've taken from that that are directly

1265
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:04,319
applicable to some of your early

1266
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:05,920
astronaut training

1267
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,240
um you know for me i think my formal

1268
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,319
education in engineering really taught

1269
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:13,040
me how to think critically about tough

1270
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:15,119
problems how to come up with ideas and

1271
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,800
test them

1272
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:18,480
and how to

1273
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,880
take in a lot of data and parse out from

1274
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,800
that useful information upon which i

1275
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:24,480
could make a decision

1276
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:26,160
but i think for me

1277
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,720
i'm constantly leaning on my experience

1278
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:31,520
in the navy which of course my education

1279
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:33,280
informed as well

1280
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:36,400
a submarine is a very technical

1281
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,960
crazy complicated machine and whether

1282
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:40,640
that's working in on the engineering

1283
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,560
side which we all do at first or

1284
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,160
actually more on the operation side like

1285
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:46,079
driving the boat and making tactical

1286
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:47,200
decisions

1287
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:48,480
um

1288
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:51,359
i i constantly rely on that experience

1289
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:52,720
because i think it's really similar to a

1290
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:55,280
lot of things we do here at nasa so that

1291
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:57,200
operational context really helps because

1292
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:58,720
that you have to understand all of that

1293
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:00,800
engineering equipment but you also have

1294
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:03,200
to work as a team to keep that you know

1295
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:05,599
everything working correctly and make

1296
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:07,119
really critical decisions in a

1297
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:09,280
time-sensitive environment

1298
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,720
and so i

1299
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:12,880
i find myself leaning on those

1300
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,520
lessons of how you bring the best out of

1301
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:17,280
everybody to do something that's really

1302
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:20,560
hard yeah um i i rely on those lessons a

1303
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,520
lot and the way i trained for

1304
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:25,200
that to deploy on a submarine and be

1305
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,880
successful there is really similar to

1306
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:28,400
the way i approach my training here at

1307
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:30,160
nasa but i think that's true for all of

1308
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:32,000
us even people from very different

1309
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:33,839
backgrounds like you know you have

1310
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:35,520
people who

1311
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:37,760
like my classmate jessica watkins who's

1312
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:40,800
a mars geologist and worked um at jpl on

1313
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,319
the mars rovers

1314
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:44,079
you know that's that was a she was doing

1315
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:46,160
that as a postdoc it's very academic but

1316
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,880
it's also a team working together with

1317
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:50,880
limited resources to try to do something

1318
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:53,680
incredible right and so she in the same

1319
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:55,359
way relies on that experience even

1320
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,720
though it's very different than what i

1321
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:58,800
did in the navy um

1322
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:00,240
and so i think

1323
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:03,520
those academic experiences inform our

1324
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:05,280
professional experiences too and those

1325
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:07,040
are also really important yeah let's

1326
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:08,800
zoom in on on an aspect of that of

1327
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:10,240
working in a team because because ann

1328
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:12,079
you mentioned this you said

1329
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:13,760
there's a skill of knowing when to lead

1330
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,520
and when to follow and doing both is

1331
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:17,760
really critical to being an astronaut

1332
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:19,280
i'm sure you had to deal with this on a

1333
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:20,960
submarine too knowing when to leave when

1334
00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:23,920
to follow what's that like is is there

1335
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:26,000
you know a mindset you have to be in of

1336
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:28,079
yes now it's time to lead and yes now

1337
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:29,359
it's time to follow

1338
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,800
sure yeah i mean i think there are

1339
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:31,920
definitely

1340
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:33,440
times where you're going to be in a

1341
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:35,440
designated leadership role that's always

1342
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,520
been you know the nasa

1343
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:40,079
and the astronaut program has its roots

1344
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:42,160
in military aviation so people are used

1345
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:43,440
to that you know you have spatial

1346
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:46,079
commanders or space station commanders

1347
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:47,920
and they're used to that formal

1348
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:49,839
designated authority but sometimes the

1349
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:53,440
harrier parts are followership and also

1350
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:55,280
self-leadership you know like i think

1351
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:58,319
thinking about followership as actually

1352
00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,720
being a self-leader like that that makes

1353
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:02,400
it more actionable like you're it's not

1354
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:05,599
my job just to follow you it's my job to

1355
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:07,599
actively figure out how to support you

1356
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:09,760
as a designated leader and contribute to

1357
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:10,720
the team

1358
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:13,440
and they're you know our our office is

1359
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,960
pretty small and we're constantly

1360
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:16,800
working in different roles so sometimes

1361
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,400
i might be in charge of something even

1362
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:20,400
though i have very little experience and

1363
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,800
sometimes i might be you know i might

1364
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:25,040
have a peer in charge of me or vice

1365
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:26,160
versa

1366
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:27,680
and being able to

1367
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:29,920
sort of transition very seamlessly

1368
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:33,040
between those roles and understand the

1369
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:34,640
different contexts and what that means

1370
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:36,079
is really important

1371
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:37,839
that's huge now

1372
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:39,760
let's let's zoom in on

1373
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,480
this class once again because i want to

1374
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:44,319
take bring us back to the fact of why

1375
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:46,640
we're here right it's it's march 6th we

1376
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,200
have until march 31st that's correct

1377
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:51,680
these applications are open where do we

1378
00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:53,920
sit right now in terms of

1379
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:56,000
ballpark applications because

1380
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:57,920
it was 600 in the first few days or

1381
00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:00,160
something it was that's why i don't get

1382
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,839
daily updates

1383
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:03,920
i don't need to be freaked out uh no

1384
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:06,880
when i checked yesterday we were close

1385
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,079
to 2000 wow so and that that's pretty

1386
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:12,319
normal right the first the the beginning

1387
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:14,319
opening period and then the end of the

1388
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:16,160
opening period we typically see big

1389
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:17,920
spikes especially with this with the

1390
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:20,480
special attention on the the last day we

1391
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:21,680
have a lot of people that wait to the

1392
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:27,270
maybe just beefing up their resume maybe

1393
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,240
that constant month to fine-tune

1394
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:32,000
everything

1395
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:34,079
um yeah so i guess there's people

1396
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:37,599
thinking about what it takes for um you

1397
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:39,760
know walking on the moon what it takes

1398
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,640
for working in teams um when you're

1399
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:44,319
looking at a resume you know because all

1400
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:46,240
of this is going to be digital right

1401
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:48,960
we're going through through usa jobs is

1402
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:50,800
there something that pops up to you

1403
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:53,119
maybe maybe a weird skill or just some

1404
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:55,200
some sort of of diverse

1405
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:56,400
something different

1406
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:58,720
um that that might make someone pop

1407
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:00,640
versus another 2000 people that you're

1408
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:02,560
looking at you know i think i think i've

1409
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:04,720
seen a lot of weird skills on resumes if

1410
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:07,119
i'm being honest um some people employ

1411
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:09,040
creative writing even which is always

1412
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:10,400
very entertaining

1413
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,560
um

1414
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:14,319
you know i again i think that's where

1415
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:17,359
that hobbies and other other interests

1416
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,319
section can be really informative uh

1417
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:22,480
that's a section where again it needs a

1418
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,839
little bit of context we have a lot of

1419
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,280
people who tell us oh i'm scuba

1420
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,760
certified okay well that doesn't tell me

1421
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:29,599
if they're scuba certified and that's

1422
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:31,520
all they've done or have they gone on

1423
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:34,960
200 dives or you know marathon runner

1424
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,800
okay well did you train and run one

1425
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,200
marathon or have you run 50

1426
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,359
um so there's a lot of room in that

1427
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,920
section for people to tell us and right

1428
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,960
we see

1429
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:46,800
coding language i remember the last

1430
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:48,720
selection cycle having to look up

1431
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:50,880
somebody wrote that they spoke python

1432
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:53,920
and i'm like i i don't know what python

1433
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:56,720
is it's a code it's a coding language

1434
00:48:01,670 --> 00:47:59,440
but right i mean so you you i've seen

1435
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,680
the gamut of things but but all of those

1436
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:03,359
things the fact that i went and looked

1437
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:05,440
up what speaking python meant i was like

1438
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,280
oh okay that's interesting i learned

1439
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,839
something so you know i wouldn't i

1440
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:11,520
wouldn't not put anything down that

1441
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:12,880
could be relevant

1442
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,480
interesting all right let's see if we

1443
00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:16,240
have a case study online jennifer do we

1444
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,319
have a question from some of you

1445
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:20,240
speaking of you know the gamut of skills

1446
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:22,559
and backgrounds we have one from diesel

1447
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:25,200
from twitter is nasa accepting pilot

1448
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:27,520
applications from pilots who have not

1449
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,240
graduated from tps is weapon school

1450
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:32,640
graduation and test flight experience a

1451
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:35,599
suitable alternative sure so i would um

1452
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,200
i'd encourage folks to read the

1453
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:39,119
application but so i'm going off memory

1454
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,559
here we we added test pilot school as

1455
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,800
a way for pilots and others to

1456
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:47,520
demonstrate that they have a master's

1457
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:50,000
degree right because basically that's

1458
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:52,480
extra schooling in the math and science

1459
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:53,440
arena

1460
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:55,119
um

1461
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:57,280
for our pilots they are not required to

1462
00:49:02,710 --> 00:48:59,839
have gone to test pilot school however

1463
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:02,720
uh they they that would not they would

1464
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:05,200
still have to have the master's degree

1465
00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:07,040
though the advanced master's degree in a

1466
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,559
technical field

1467
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:10,720
so so they right i'd encourage folks

1468
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:12,240
that are interested or considering

1469
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:14,480
whether test pilot school works or

1470
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:17,359
doesn't work to very specifically read

1471
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,240
um that section of the announcement yeah

1472
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,640
okay so definitely get the details there

1473
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:24,880
are a few little nuances there well

1474
00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:27,359
kayla what did you do to uh make

1475
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:29,839
yourself stand out in terms of was it

1476
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,760
was it maybe just your skills or did you

1477
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:33,520
have that weird thing i can answer that

1478
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:35,680
i have no idea i remember

1479
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:38,480
uh right i mean if i recall kayla's

1480
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:41,359
application being one of the first three

1481
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:42,640
i think

1482
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:45,200
women in this in the submarine force is

1483
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,960
that correct to kind of um so i was in

1484
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:48,079
the first

1485
00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:48,960
year

1486
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,559
yeah that women were accepted in the

1487
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,920
submarine force

1488
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:53,200
um

1489
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:54,880
yeah and on my on my submarine there

1490
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:56,640
were like between three and five of us

1491
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,240
at a time yeah but yeah it was still

1492
00:50:02,230 --> 00:50:00,400
pretty new yeah it was very new right

1493
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:02,240
and that stood out and then i think also

1494
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:04,000
the direct correlation that kayla

1495
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,440
already spoke to

1496
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,839
with the environment of living and

1497
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:09,920
working on a submarine

1498
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:12,319
translates directly to basically the

1499
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,160
space station if kayla thinks of the

1500
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:16,640
space station as a as a flying sub i

1501
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:17,599
love that

1502
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:20,319
um i'm gonna use that submarine

1503
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,880
submarine in space i like it so i mean

1504
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:24,400
right those are two things right there

1505
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:26,960
that i even recall reading kayla's

1506
00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:29,680
resume years ago what uh and what are

1507
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:31,760
you in for for the next few months maybe

1508
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,599
years for looking at what's the

1509
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:34,880
application because they closed on the

1510
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:37,440
31st your job's not even close to done

1511
00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:40,240
no it's actually just starting we

1512
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:42,800
anticipate nasa anticipates announcing

1513
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:45,040
the next class of astronauts and

1514
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:47,920
and i always say the early summer of

1515
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,319
2021 i don't know houston summer tends

1516
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:52,559
to start in march so

1517
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:54,880
i'm already feeling it may junish of

1518
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:56,319
2021

1519
00:51:03,030 --> 00:50:59,200
um but as we talked about earlier this

1520
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:03,040
is a multi-step process and so there are

1521
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:04,559
things that we'll start doing from the

1522
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,800
day that announcement closes to try and

1523
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,720
you know continually whittle down the

1524
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:10,400
numbers and make sure that we're looking

1525
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,160
at the highly qualified folks and

1526
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:14,640
inviting those folks for interviews etc

1527
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:15,839
so

1528
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,839
yeah it's about another

1529
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:19,680
year plus in the making yeah it's going

1530
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:21,839
to be a long one yeah now kayla you're

1531
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:22,880
we're talking about the artemis

1532
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:24,240
generation

1533
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:27,839
also very apparent that you're part of

1534
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,839
this you you are the artemis generation

1535
00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:31,680
tell me what some of the folks that are

1536
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,359
applying to the astronauts what they can

1537
00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:35,280
expect if they eventually do become

1538
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:36,559
astronauts what we have to look forward

1539
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:37,440
to

1540
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:41,680
be starting work at nasa because we're

1541
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:43,920
continuing the amazing work we're doing

1542
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,839
on the space station we just celebrated

1543
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:48,000
20 years of continuous human presence

1544
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:50,319
there which is incredible and we've

1545
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,480
gotten really good at knowing how to

1546
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:54,640
operate up there and accomplish a lot

1547
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:56,800
and so we're really excited to be a part

1548
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:59,280
of and continue to build on that legacy

1549
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:00,880
but what makes it really exciting is we

1550
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:02,720
have also have a lot of other things

1551
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:04,240
going on we're about to bring the

1552
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,160
commercial crew program online where

1553
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,240
we'll launch nasa astronauts from the

1554
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:10,559
cape in florida again on boeing and

1555
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:12,720
spacex vehicles which is super exciting

1556
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,160
those will be going to the space station

1557
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:16,800
so be another way to get a ride there

1558
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:19,119
but also we're developing all of our

1559
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:20,720
systems for the artemis program are

1560
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:22,240
returned to the moon with the goal of

1561
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:23,920
putting humans back on the surface of

1562
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:26,800
the moon by 2024 and so

1563
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:29,520
that involves a new rocket a new space

1564
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,240
capsule new space suits thinking about

1565
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:34,559
power generation technologies in-situ

1566
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:36,720
resource utilization on the moon and all

1567
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,720
of these things you can really nerd out

1568
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,400
on with the people you find around

1569
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,319
johnson space center

1570
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:44,400
so for us it's super exciting because it

1571
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:46,720
feels like we're on the cusp

1572
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:48,000
of a whole

1573
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:48,880
new

1574
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:50,400
mission

1575
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:51,680
so we're

1576
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:53,599
the timing's good because you gotta get

1577
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:55,839
to be a part of that sort of legacy

1578
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:57,839
mission of the space station but also be

1579
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:00,880
a part of building the future of nasa

1580
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:02,880
which is returning to the moon hopefully

1581
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:04,640
to eventually go on to mars which would

1582
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:07,280
be just so incredible so it's a really

1583
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,040
fun time to be here yeah and i know

1584
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:11,200
right there's a lot of excitement i hope

1585
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:13,680
it at nasa and hopefully beyond across

1586
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:15,680
the country to return flying us

1587
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:18,160
astronauts from u.s soil on u.s rocket

1588
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:18,880
so

1589
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:20,800
it's a great time

1590
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:22,319
to work at nasa are the turtles part of

1591
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,760
that right now because we're building up

1592
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:25,920
to that yeah absolutely so a lot of us

1593
00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:27,839
have been involved in different ways in

1594
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:30,559
the commercial crew program

1595
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:32,559
some of us have been doing verification

1596
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:34,800
testing with them you know just kind of

1597
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,559
finalizing the details of their system

1598
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:38,400
getting to test them out with fresh eyes

1599
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:39,839
and give them feedback on how things

1600
00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:40,800
work

1601
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:42,559
people are involved

1602
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:44,960
in operations getting ready for those

1603
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:47,359
actual launches from cape canaveral in

1604
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,599
florida so really thinking through

1605
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:51,760
you know how to get the astronauts ready

1606
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:53,200
for launch how do we take care of their

1607
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:54,400
families and what do we do when they

1608
00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:56,720
land how do we get them back to safety

1609
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:58,400
so there's a lot of things that are

1610
00:54:02,309 --> 00:53:59,920
spinning back up that we haven't really

1611
00:54:04,790 --> 00:54:02,319
been doing since the space space shuttle

1612
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:04,800
stopped flying so yeah it's an exciting

1613
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,800
time it's a very exciting time we have a

1614
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:08,319
lot of

1615
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:10,160
i guess new skills to look forward to

1616
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:11,520
right let's see if we have one more

1617
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:13,040
question from online jennifer can we

1618
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:15,359
squeeze in one more we sure do

1619
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,920
we have one from drew from twitter

1620
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:20,000
will current astronauts be required to

1621
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:22,480
do updated training to go to the moon

1622
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:24,960
okay well i guess is maybe kayla you

1623
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:26,319
mentioned specialized training maybe

1624
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:27,359
that'll be part of the specialized

1625
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:28,720
training i don't know if the candidate

1626
00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:31,119
training will be updated but no well i

1627
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:32,400
think as kayla mentioned right the

1628
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,559
candidate training kind of focuses on

1629
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,640
the basic things that every

1630
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:38,480
astronaut needs to know and then there's

1631
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:40,559
always mission specific training beyond

1632
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,040
that so yeah i think a lot of the

1633
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:45,359
training the new class will do will be

1634
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:47,920
pretty similar to what our class did

1635
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:50,720
but as we start to fly to the moon of

1636
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:52,720
course we'll be doing specific training

1637
00:54:56,470 --> 00:54:55,040
to include advanced geology training so

1638
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:56,480
that we can be ready to do some awesome

1639
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:58,160
science when we're up there

1640
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,280
uh we'll

1641
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,680
modify and expand our spacewalk training

1642
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,599
so that we can learn how to operate

1643
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:05,520
correctly in one sixth grad earth

1644
00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:06,960
gravity as opposed to the apparent

1645
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:08,799
microgravity environment we have on

1646
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:10,960
space station now lots of different

1647
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:12,799
tools lots of different vehicles you

1648
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:14,240
know we have to fly a new capsule we

1649
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:17,119
have to fly a lander um all this new

1650
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,640
sort of mission specific equipment

1651
00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:20,400
absolutely we'll be doing some

1652
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:22,079
additional training on that

1653
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:23,440
but i think it'll be more part of

1654
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,880
mission specific training that you do

1655
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:26,480
after you graduate from astronaut

1656
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:28,400
candidate training so if you had a if

1657
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:29,599
you ought to put your name in the hat

1658
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:31,520
for one of those specialized training i

1659
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,720
know what i would pick what would you

1660
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:34,799
pick you know i

1661
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:36,960
i really love the space walk training we

1662
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:39,440
do and i've been helping out a little

1663
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:41,599
bit with the next generation spacesuit

1664
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:43,280
that we'll wear on the next moonwalk the

1665
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,920
exploration emu or xcmu

1666
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,880
so

1667
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,200
i'm constantly nerding out and getting

1668
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:51,599
excited about those moon walks just

1669
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:53,760
yesterday we were over in the

1670
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:56,160
rock yard where they have simulated soil

1671
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,160
environments looking at the first

1672
00:56:01,589 --> 00:56:00,240
generation of the geology tools we'll be

1673
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:01,599
using

1674
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:03,599
and it just gets your your head in that

1675
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,599
mindset of standing on the moon looking

1676
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,440
back at earth and collecting these

1677
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,160
samples that will inform science for

1678
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,720
decades if not centuries to come

1679
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:15,040
so it's definitely

1680
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:16,319
cool to be thinking about that stuff

1681
00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:18,720
that's huge and if you had to pick one

1682
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:21,440
specialized training oh

1683
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:23,839
my feet are happy on the earth so i

1684
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:24,799
don't know

1685
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:26,720
i might actually choose russian you'd be

1686
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,880
the trainer yeah i know i would sign up

1687
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,559
for the moonwalking

1688
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:32,559
anne and kayla this has been so fun

1689
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:34,079
thank you so much for coming on the

1690
00:56:37,589 --> 00:56:35,920
podcast today and describing the inside

1691
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:37,599
experience this has been really really

1692
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,359
fun and i appreciate your time i really

1693
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,680
do jennifer thanks for being our face

1694
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:43,280
for the for the viewers and the

1695
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:44,640
listeners and taking in some of your

1696
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:46,799
questions you got it it was so nice to

1697
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:48,960
be with you all today and thanks to the

1698
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:50,240
listeners for actually submitting

1699
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:51,520
questions they were all really great and

1700
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:52,960
i think we it really stimulated a

1701
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,040
fantastic conversation again the

1702
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:57,520
astronaut operations are open until the

1703
00:57:02,069 --> 00:57:00,240
march 31st so beef up those resumes and

1704
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:02,079
go on usajobs and you can submit it

1705
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:03,920
there before then and subscribe to